Yikes

[Dwayne]

So the past couple of days have been real rough to say the least. This post is just my opinion and thoughts on the topic keep it civil in replies because let's face it (we are all toxic to a degree).

Caitlyn, starting off I do not hate her she even is a pretty chill person, the reasoning for many peoples outcries and toxicity is because of her special treatment. Of course it's the Owners GF so there's no doubt in our minds that we would do the same for our significant others to some extent if we were the Owner(s).

With that being said, after the first few mix ups should have been enough to realize that hey, the community isnt reacting well to her let's try and separate her a little more, IN WHICH he did, they took a break from the server etc.

Now Myself, Miles, and all the SA's have made it clear to Shepard we would not like to see her with administrative power simply because of the nuclear bomb that would go off if she stepped out of line and the amount of trust (little to none) she had attained through the community. Ultimately it is shepard's decision on things but after yesterday in all respect... we told you so. She does not need administrative powers just like the Dev's do not need them. It is just a problem waiting to happen, special treatment and asking for trouble are two separate things. Granted we all dislike caitlyn's actions we cannot blame and shit on her for this alone, it was Shepards decision in the end. IM NOT SAYING GO FLAME SHEPARD. Rather to understand there was a mistake made and myself and the other high staff will continue to TRY and guide Shepard on this rollercoaster. I hope he understands his mistakes and realizes what is happening within the community.

Once again keep this civil. Thank you.

 

[Jacob Nova]

I understand that there is a lot of fault, but let it be clear that this isn't just Caitlyn who has caused these issues. As miles and you stated earlier, were all toxic to a degree. It's not only Caitlyns fault, but I feel the community in general.

 

[Kale]

It’s a good time to not be on the server and just kick back and watch lol

 

[Faerie]

Personally I do not feel Caitlyn has been attacked for 2 months straight as claimed. The only times people have had a problem with her were over Shepard’s decisions and lack there of. With one or two exceptions, no one has targeted her at all. Also as a girl in the community, there is always some sort of harassment but it’s not constant. The reason why I have an issue with Shepard is because he lets her get away with saying racist remarks, which people have reported with evidence, and publicly bullied someone with information told in private- in confidence she wouldn’t tell anyone -and gets left off easy with no apology to the individual she hurt and basically no ban. Now before anyone says well she did it out of anger and it’s ok, it’s not. I was in a similar situation (if you know, you know) but I never exposed anything that person told me in confidence even when they created and spread terrible rumors about me. Also, she is to blame for her actions too, no one can force you to do or say those things. I felt she played the victim card yesterday like were some of us more harsh than others? Yes, but what was said was truth to a degree. I do believe some community members have harassed Caitlyn in the past, all girls on the server are for similar reasons. But, I do not agree that she is a victim here. Shepard is the server owner and needs to seperate buisness and pleasure otherwise this won’t work out. We all need to try to understand both sides and actually listen to each other.

 

[Estrella]

Personally I do not feel Caitlyn has been attacked for 2 months straight as claimed. The only times people have had a problem with her were over Shepard’s decisions and lack there of. With one or two exceptions, no one has targeted her at all. Also as a girl in the community, there is always some sort of harassment but it’s not constant. The reason why I have an issue with Shepard is because he lets her get away with saying racist remarks, which people have reported with evidence, and publicly bullied someone with information told in private in confidence she wouldn’t tell anyone and gets left off easy. Now before anyone says well she did it out of anger and it’s ok, it’s not. I was in a similar situation (if you know, you know) but I never exposed anything that person told me in confidence even when they created and spread terrible rumors about me. Also, she is to blame for her actions too, no one can force you to do or say those things. I felt she played the victim card yesterday like were some of us more harsh than others? Yes, but what was said was truth to a degree. I do believe some community members have harassed Caitlyn in the past, all girls on the server are for similar reasons. But, I do not agree that she is a victim here. Shepard is the server owner and needs to seperate buisness and pleasure otherwise this won’t work out. We all need to try to understand both sides and actually listen to each other.

This is from an E-Grill herself

 

[Tupac]

Personally I do not feel Caitlyn has been attacked for 2 months straight as claimed. The only times people have had a problem with her were over Shepard’s decisions and lack there of. With one or two exceptions, no one has targeted her at all. Also as a girl in the community, there is always some sort of harassment but it’s not constant. The reason why I have an issue with Shepard is because he lets her get away with saying racist remarks, which people have reported with evidence, and publicly bullied someone with information told in private- in confidence she wouldn’t tell anyone -and gets left off easy with no apology to the individual she hurt and basically no ban. Now before anyone says well she did it out of anger and it’s ok, it’s not. I was in a similar situation (if you know, you know) but I never exposed anything that person told me in confidence even when they created and spread terrible rumors about me. Also, she is to blame for her actions too, no one can force you to do or say those things. I felt she played the victim card yesterday like were some of us more harsh than others? Yes, but what was said was truth to a degree. I do believe some community members have harassed Caitlyn in the past, all girls on the server are for similar reasons. But, I do not agree that she is a victim here. Shepard is the server owner and needs to seperate buisness and pleasure otherwise this won’t work out. We all need to try to understand both sides and actually listen to each other.

I agree with everything that you have said. If people are trying to defend her for saying shit because "she did it out of anger" What I did (most of y'all know) was out of anger, and I got Torched. Now, with that being said I shouldn't of said it and such. But, everyone should be held accountable for their actions. If you get so mad to the point that you cannot control what you say and the manor of which you say it on multiple occasions then somethings wrong. Now, I haven't been here in the last month or so. Took a break from the community with an exception to talking to a few of you in TS, Mainly Atlas and Whiskey so I'm not sure what has happened as of late other than all the shit that went down yesterday. But, from what I saw or heard I don't think she has been harassed for 2 months straight. I'm sure there are people with a few screws loose in their head that go out of their way to be extra toxic (as was said we are all toxic). But for the most part I doubt that the community as a whole just decides to gang up on her. What she said in a thread about a good good friend of mine should never have been brought up, I don't think for one second that it was a justifiable response to anything. Just my whole input on the situation.

 

[Shepard]

Im just gonna say, yall cant say she hasent been shit on over the last 2 months. We all remember the first month where the forum war broke out, and since then their hasent been and big issues but its been a constant trickle of shit. People making passive aggressive comments to her on the server and discord, people coming up with theories that she is a catfish, ever members from other communities who are not even involved coming and saying OH SHE IS A DUDE. People talking about her behind her back then other people telling her about it. Just because you guys are not affected by that kinda stuff doesnt mean other people arnt. Did she go overboard yesterday? yes. But that does not mean her points about the last 2 months being non stop harrasment any less true.

 

[Faerie]

Im just gonna say, yall cant say she hasent been shit on over the last 2 months. We all remember the first month where the forum war broke out, and since then their hasent been and big issues but its been a constant trickle of shit. People making passive aggressive comments to her on the server and discord, people coming up with theories that she is a catfish, ever members from other communities who are not even involved coming and saying OH SHE IS A DUDE. People talking about her behind her back then other people telling her about it. Just because you guys are not affected by that kinda stuff doesnt mean other people arnt. Did she go overboard yesterday? yes. But that does not mean her points about the last 2 months being non stop harrasment any less true.

Welcome to being a girl on Gmod.

Also, please don’t justify bullying.

 

[Shepard]

Welcome to being a girl on Gmod.

Doesn't justify anything.

 

[ScaryLion]

I belive it's a intresting situation. Obviously there is stuff from both sides, Caityln did some stuff and others did some stuff. Ik some people brought up the point (includeing myself), keep real life and work life separate. Just like how a doctor shoudent operate on there kids, I dont belive Shepard should of brought Caitlyn into the server as he did. I'd say Reborn is the patient, Shepard is the doctor and Caitlyn is the tools. If done properly there will be no problems. But I feel as if the tools where just jammed into the body (if that makes sense). This isent to say Caityln shoudent be allowed into the server, she provided many great changes to the server. But overall, how she was introduced and how people percived her was horrible.

 

[Charger_AU]

I'll be real, yeah Caitlyn has had some stuff said to her over time and yeah that's pretty shit. I had to put up with shit that made me frustrated/mad in the server for a number of months (way more than two) and I got real tired of it some days but you know... there's more constructive ways of dealing with things than personally attacking people who don't share your opinion on things. At the end of the day it comes down to being emotionally mature and exercising a level of self control. Sure there will be days when that's hard and you really wanna burst out and tell people off but that's why you have friends etc, people to confide in and get those feeling off your chest without having to drag your reputation through the dirt for a moment of satisfaction. Because that moment of you bursting out at someone and venting all your feelings will come back to make things worse afterwards, as it has in this situation.

 

[Loody]

The first time ALOT of people found out about caitlyn is when she got emp out of nowhere and that leads to toxicity for anyone not just because its her specifically.After she got emp the only time people really got mad and started talking shit on her publicly is when she does stuff ex. Going into a channel she is banned in,Given a rank on the server which has some popping powers,Banning people on discord and Gmod.

She aint catching hate just because she is here in my opinion but thats just me.