Rant about the current state of the combat system.

Shade Tano

Shade Tano

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Gorge said:
-3
I hate aggressive / fury 1. Do they get nerfed NOPE they easily land 3-8 ticks if good.
Dual wielding max hits 2-4 hits. We already take -10 damage so you guys get to have 500 damage and we get to have 300 that seems fair.

Dual wielding isn’t broken or anything. If anything is broken it’s aggressive considering it can hit while the person is parrying. It can also tick a shit ton of times.

With fury 1 one parry and you can kill a person. Nothing else to say.. it’s all around broken with ticks and range.

Dual wield = 1 parry is maybe 1.5k damage while other things can easily get around 3k-5k damage.

Dual wielding doesn’t have a broken range .. It’s called ghost blade and that can’t be fixed..

Nerfing dual wielding = forcing people to go use aggressive and fury one HECK may as well remove everything but aggressive and fury 1 because right when someone becomes good at a stance everyone complains and gets it nerfed...
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Are you high??????
 
Dickolas Dan

Dickolas Dan

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Gorge said:
-3
I hate aggressive / fury 1. Do they get nerfed NOPE they easily land 3-8 ticks if good.
Dual wielding max hits 2-4 hits. We already take -10 damage so you guys get to have 500 damage and we get to have 300 that seems fair.

Dual wielding isn’t broken or anything. If anything is broken it’s aggressive considering it can hit while the person is parrying. It can also tick a shit ton of times.

With fury 1 one parry and you can kill a person. Nothing else to say.. it’s all around broken with ticks and range.

Dual wield = 1 parry is maybe 1.5k damage while other things can easily get around 3k-5k damage.

Dual wielding doesn’t have a broken range .. It’s called ghost blade and that can’t be fixed..

Nerfing dual wielding = forcing people to go use aggressive and fury one HECK may as well remove everything but aggressive and fury 1 because right when someone becomes good at a stance everyone complains and gets it nerfed...
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You're the only reason I'm responding to this thread. You're either blind or a liar.
Fury 1 usually gets 1 or 2 ticks when you hit someone with a normal hitbox. 3-5 ticks on perfect hits that go better than you could ever hope for. The only times I see people get these 6-8 ticks are when people use the worst models made with overlapping hitboxes and they run straight into the saber and take it all. I've been fighting with you these past few days, so I see why you're complaining. You're using your form completely wrong and you're going straight into the saber of anyone running away from you. You're letting them lead you around right into their hits with your new model. Now I don't know hitboxes well, but I can say there are some models that seem to be made to be hit by Fury 1 (like Eizen's old model with the dark robe) and your model may just be one of them. You actually were complaining about how broken arrogant was in the past and I believe that either yesterday or the day before you ticked me 8 times with arrogant when I wasn't in front of you and you weren't even aiming for me. Now I can't say for sure if it was arrogant being weird like it always has been or if it was just that claw hilt you asked Shepard to buff 3 times, but I knew that something was up since it happened a few more times that day. The only thing I can see you complaining about is aggressive's sideswipe that has a weird spot you have to look at to parry, but everything else sounds like BS. I also want to point out EVERY HEAVY CAN 1 SHOT YOU ON A PARRY besides dual wielding and fury 2. Fury 2 makes up for it with a nice trailing hitbox if you're being chased and dual wielding makes up for it with its "not broken range". You can't complain about the range on aggressive or Fury when it makes them easier to parry since they actually hit where they are swinging instead of 10 feet away. I would also like to point out that not every stance is made for the same playstyle. Dual wielding isn't made for parrying and heavying just like how Fury 2 isn't made for chasing people down. Versatile isn't made to go wild swinging your sabers in every direction because you don't know hitboxes. I want you to understand it isn't the stances, but the way you use them and act against them.
Side note: At the top you claim you lose 10 damage then say you deal 200 damage less, so something isn't adding up.
 
IROCONIAN

IROCONIAN

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Dickolas Dan said:
You're the only reason I'm responding to this thread. You're either blind or a liar.
Fury 1 usually gets 1 or 2 ticks when you hit someone with a normal hitbox. 3-5 ticks on perfect hits that go better than you could ever hope for. The only times I see people get these 6-8 ticks are when people use the worst models made with overlapping hitboxes and they run straight into the saber and take it all. I've been fighting with you these past few days, so I see why you're complaining. You're using your form completely wrong and you're going straight into the saber of anyone running away from you. You're letting them lead you around right into their hits with your new model. Now I don't know hitboxes well, but I can say there are some models that seem to be made to be hit by Fury 1 (like Eizen's old model with the dark robe) and your model may just be one of them. You actually were complaining about how broken arrogant was in the past and I believe that either yesterday or the day before you ticked me 8 times with arrogant when I wasn't in front of you and you weren't even aiming for me. Now I can't say for sure if it was arrogant being weird like it always has been or if it was just that claw hilt you asked Shepard to buff 3 times, but I knew that something was up since it happened a few more times that day. The only thing I can see you complaining about is aggressive's sideswipe that has a weird spot you have to look at to parry, but everything else sounds like BS. I also want to point out EVERY HEAVY CAN 1 SHOT YOU ON A PARRY besides dual wielding and fury 2. Fury 2 makes up for it with a nice trailing hitbox if you're being chased and dual wielding makes up for it with its "not broken range". You can't complain about the range on aggressive or Fury when it makes them easier to parry since they actually hit where they are swinging instead of 10 feet away. I would also like to point out that not every stance is made for the same playstyle. Dual wielding isn't made for parrying and heavying just like how Fury 2 isn't made for chasing people down. Versatile isn't made to go wild swinging your sabers in every direction because you don't know hitboxes. I want you to understand it isn't the stances, but the way you use them and act against them.
Side note: At the top you claim you lose 10 damage then say you deal 200 damage less, so something isn't adding up.
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He was saying dual wield damage should get nerfed. makes sense if you are hplding something with two hands you can strike harder. The sweep with Aggressive one can be duplicated in a few different forms like fury 1 and versatile ii. you go about the sweep a different way but same result with striking behind your opponent. also Niman which is dual wielding for the most part is a balanced form and should be able to be used as def and attack, imo dual wield really should be nerfed on damage or even give it double blade distance.

the range on dual wield is between fury 1 and aggressive 1 with alot of people perfecting the "ghost blade" and hitting me from 20yards away....

I like the idea that a lvl 110 padawan can spinarooni through a couple of Darths who spend more time dueling than in Combat. It evens our the playing field but reduces the skill required.

WE MADE IT INTO STREET FIGHTER where it is about chains and combos instead of precision and skill.

I did a trial for a dual wield and he ghost bladed me then heavied me with 3k health gone i was pretty much set to lose to my student. I also made a small pad for us to fight on, I barely lost with him less than 1000hp but him winning on a heavy from accross the ring. I returned and noticed his arrogance....litterally lol....and all the unwatchers in disbelief i got sliced and diced. So we duel again, he hits me a coup e of time but i use Niman and beat him easily...which humbl3d him and made him want to learn.



the problem with dual wield is that if it remains as is. people will flock to it and overall skill in combat will be a thing of the past. you may even see adverts.

HARD PK duel me no force no potions....no dual wielding

Perfection is predictable and nothing else is
 
Vethar

Vethar

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Dickolas Dan said:
You're the only reason I'm responding to this thread. You're either blind or a liar.
Fury 1 usually gets 1 or 2 ticks when you hit someone with a normal hitbox. 3-5 ticks on perfect hits that go better than you could ever hope for. The only times I see people get these 6-8 ticks are when people use the worst models made with overlapping hitboxes and they run straight into the saber and take it all. I've been fighting with you these past few days, so I see why you're complaining. You're using your form completely wrong and you're going straight into the saber of anyone running away from you. You're letting them lead you around right into their hits with your new model. Now I don't know hitboxes well, but I can say there are some models that seem to be made to be hit by Fury 1 (like Eizen's old model with the dark robe) and your model may just be one of them. You actually were complaining about how broken arrogant was in the past and I believe that either yesterday or the day before you ticked me 8 times with arrogant when I wasn't in front of you and you weren't even aiming for me. Now I can't say for sure if it was arrogant being weird like it always has been or if it was just that claw hilt you asked Shepard to buff 3 times, but I knew that something was up since it happened a few more times that day. The only thing I can see you complaining about is aggressive's sideswipe that has a weird spot you have to look at to parry, but everything else sounds like BS. I also want to point out EVERY HEAVY CAN 1 SHOT YOU ON A PARRY besides dual wielding and fury 2. Fury 2 makes up for it with a nice trailing hitbox if you're being chased and dual wielding makes up for it with its "not broken range". You can't complain about the range on aggressive or Fury when it makes them easier to parry since they actually hit where they are swinging instead of 10 feet away. I would also like to point out that not every stance is made for the same playstyle. Dual wielding isn't made for parrying and heavying just like how Fury 2 isn't made for chasing people down. Versatile isn't made to go wild swinging your sabers in every direction because you don't know hitboxes. I want you to understand it isn't the stances, but the way you use them and act against them.
Side note: At the top you claim you lose 10 damage then say you deal 200 damage less, so something isn't adding up.
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Idk lucifer is a god at fury one and can land HELLA ticks a swing. 1 parry with fury 1 and you’re dead that’s how broken fury 1 is. Also you can’t blame “Broken range” that’s not our fault it a server problem.

Also the people who complain about dual wielding have never used it. Dual wielding is easy to counter. We have weak heavys. Vanguard heavy is pretty much unless that’s why I pretty much never use it. The only good one is that one that sends you flying in the air and even that lands like 2 ticks.

All you need to do is parry then we easily die. Some may say ghost blade is broken but you need a lot of practice to learn how to use the ghost blade. And even that some people still don’t learn it.
 
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Dickolas Dan

Dickolas Dan

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Gorge said:
Idk lucifer is a god at fury one and can land HELLA ticks a swing. 1 parry with fury 1 and you’re dead that’s how broken fury 1 is. Also you can’t blame “Broken range” that’s not our fault it a server problem.

Also the people who complain about dual wielding have never used it. Dual wielding is easy to counter. We have weak heavys. Vanguard heavy is pretty much unless that’s why I pretty much never use it. The only good one is that one that sends you flying in the air and even that lands like 2 ticks.

All you need to do is parry then we easily die. Some may say ghost blade is broken but you need a lot of practice to learn how to use the ghost blade. And even that some people still don’t learn it.
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Let me reiterate some things. If you get parried and heavier by versatile you're taking a lot of damage. If you get parried and heavied by aggressive you're taking a lot of damage. If you get parried and heavied by fury 1 or 3 you're taking a lot of damage. If you get parried and heavied by defensive you're taking a lot of damage. If you are in a small room and you get parried and heavied by annhilation you are going to take a lot of damage. It's not just Fury 1 that does lots of damage on heavies so chill yourself. None of the heavies 1 shot you and if they do I suggest changing your model because something is wrong with your hitbox. If you continue to complain with the whole "ghost blades isn't our fault" (even though it's just a result of reversing a blade, so it is 100% your fault) then I guess I can end any argument with "I didn't make this server" I mean it's true, but that sentence means nothing in terms of the argument. I doubt you took the time to read my other argument, so I'll cut it short here on the note that fury and aggressive are easy to parry, so that excuse won't really work.
 
Preston

Preston

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-1 anyone can beat it, dont blame the form blame yourself. Use fury 1 and back pedal if you cant fight arrogant spam. Also make sure to hold alt the entire time.
 
Papi

Papi

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Since arrogant was given an additional -35 damage it has gotten the nerf all of you wanted to make it useless again welcome back to a world of only fury 1 and defensive
 
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