I Wanna Hear What You Guys Think About Jedi.

[Arata Winters]

So hello everyone my community name is Arata but if you guys still play the server you will probably know me as Satele Winters or Jadus Summers, so as people know I have once again recently got Jedi Council and while all of this Throne drama is happening it gives the Jedi Council time work on making docs, review people in our orgs and just give us a quick break before people start coming back to Jedi so I have decided to come onto the forums to as you guys directly what do you think we could do to make Jedi a more enjoyable experience for everyone.

I am going to state the most recent set of changes for people who aren't in the Jedi Discord or don't play

- We are bringing back the Shadows Organization, The current Shadow Of The Order has been made Kasuo, Unknown will be helping Kasuo lead Shadows if you are interested in becoming a Shadow talk to one of them two.

-The tenets are no longer a thing, after a vote amongst the council we have decided that we do not need the tenets to guide us and the code will be just fine

 

[Theseus]

Bringing back shadows will help improve jedi in every way as it brings lots more RP opportunities and it is a loved org by many and hated by those who fail to realize what shadows actually stands for. Removing the tenets has been long overdue to the point that you guys are just now doing it makes it seem pointless as we have already memorized them and have gotten use to them. They also allowed trials to be mixed up and different as it's always the same for jedi.

 

[Arata Winters]

Bring back shadows will help improve jedi in every way as it brings lots more RP opportunities and it is a loved org by many and hated by those who fail to realize what shadows actually stands for. Removing the tenets has been long overdue to the point that you guys are just now doing it makes it seem pointless as we have already memorized them and have gotten use to them. They also allowed trials to be mixed up and different as it's always the same for jedi.

With the tenets it never really mixed up anything because its just something that you read off a piece of paper unless you have really spent the time memorizing for x or y reason, and I think that we could replace the tenets with something more interesting and not just a few words like the 3 pillars, but I do agree that trials could use improvement and this is your place to tell us if you have any interesting ways to mix up trials. Thank you for the feedback even if you don't give us anything it will still be brought up next meeting and talked about.

 

[Theseus]

As well the Jedi need direct improvement on RP. It's sad to that RP is almost non existent in jedi anymore. Evidence to this is scholars is dead, no one respects TG, everyone duels in the temple, the library is honestly just a AFK zone. As well trials are bland and never change I sit watch and listen and it's the same monotone trials you always get no one ever mixes it up anymore. No one cares about ROE either because council doesn't enforce it half the time they break it themselves. The Order just needs some spicing up and new things.

 

[Theseus]

You already know Shadows are a thing, with the tenets it never really mixed up anything because its just something that you read off a piece of paper unless you have really spent the time memorizing for x or y reason, and I think that we could replace the tenets with something more interesting and not just a few words like the 3 pillars, but I do agree that trials could use improvement and this is your place to tell us if you have any interesting ways to mix up trials.

Yea I know they are that's why I said bringing it back will help. And eh it was better than just loyalty code forms and duel. And yeah the trials just need improvement all around and three pillars would be cool to have back but not for trials.

 

[Theseus]

All in all though Jedi is doing great as of right now most of our council is amazing and unbiased. But everything is just getting old for some if older players as it is just the same repetitive stuff to go through over and over again. It would be nice to see council enforcing more RP. What would be amazing is if every trials from org to knight/master trials weren't just the same thing every time and could dive into something like writing a small essay or so because as of now it's mainly just fighting. It would be cool to get master evaluations back and make master actually mater again instead of just having extra hp and padawans. I love the jedi and want to see it improve, and as of right now the only improvement is that Shadows is back and that the council is amazing. Everything else is still the same from no change in orgs or trials or just having no RP at all. There is few of people who focus on RP left but right now all jedi does is duel the people who focus on RP are just stuck with nothing to do really and it's a shame and would be great to see council encouraging more RP situations. Other than that the jedi is on the perfect path to being the healthiest it's been in years.

 

[Zeus]

Here’s what I have to say, ZoZo has been Grandmaster for to long, I feel as if for the last few weeks things went down hill, I feel as if zozo has done all he can, with helping and leading, but is Nothings really changed. if we get a knew grand master we can have a new perspective on how things should be run, and possibly more players. Since zozo has been GM for a while people that hate him or dislike his methods would probably come back to being Jedi and have it become more active, and more revived

 

[Rde Ren]

Yeah tbh more rp I would hold a class and people would come to talk over me and tg are not respected at all. Not enough punishments are handed out to people who do not want to be a Jedi.

 

[Arata Winters]

Here’s what I have to say, ZoZo has been Grandmaster for to long, I feel as if for the last few weeks things went down hill, I feel as if zozo has done all he can, with helping and leading, but is Nothings really changed. if we get a knew grand master we can have a new perspective on how things should be run, and possibly more players. Since zozo has been GM for a while people that hate him or dislike his methods would probably come back to being Jedi and have it become more active, and more revived

An interesting view, the only problem with Zozo stepping down as of right now is that we don't really think anyone is really ready to take GM for different reasons I am not going to publicly state so if Zozo was to step down right now Shepard would have to take over.

Yeah tbh more rp I would hold a class and people would come to talk over me and tg are not respected at all. Not enough punishments are handed out to people who do not want to be a Jedi.

I think this ties in with Theseus's suggest and I agree sadly I know you can't play the server but I have been trying to be strict with Jedi who think they can just do what ever.

 

[Maguku]

Make me Soto and I’ll take care of it

 

[Kezech]

Hostile takeover right now

 

[IROCONIAN]

An interesting view, the only problem with Zozo stepping down as of right now is that we don't really think anyone is really ready to take GM for different reasons I am not going to publicly state so if Zozo was to step down right now Shepard would have to take it.

interesting? i think it is pretty accurate. the last 5 grandmasters are on their second or 5th run. Have not done anything new.

as former COUNCIL
Master trial council recs
we created the great archives (COAT)
started the discord for orgs (macy)
RT bunks outside of the temple





also all former emeperors who each pkd either one of their own council (Kesul) or a colluded to eliminate high ranking org officers (Higgs)
Grandmasters since the Jedi's fall
Cause, Five, Scary, Cause, Shepard for 2 weeks, Cause, Alex, Archer for a day, Alex, Zozo for 2 months now. nothing new or interesting.

grand scholar
galen
liam
galen
scrim
galen
see a problem here?

high general
....

moto
Moto always seems to be the backstabber when in reality he should be the rock in the stream always present and managing people. pushing and pulling as needed to have the order follow the direction of the Grandmaster.


Council had a clear cut case of murder and video evidence. witnesses. proof that this same style of meanness pk happened time and time again.
yet they log off in the middle of us bringing it yo their attention only to get a message to respect the council member when they step down. that was a week ago. still has not stepped down.

there are currently no posted punishments and during a pivotal time in the server going to an old/legacy map. just Oat Man, Kasuo and Arata were on after the meeting. jcomms at 810 and everyone logged off after the shadows announcement. went from 40+ people to 22 inside of 10 minutes.


priviledge is the reason the server is having population problems. it is suppose to be a competitive game but that mechanic has yet to work in almost a year.

look how many will show up tommorow for the claim only to vanish again once defeated.

iroconian has been saying these things for 10 months

the allegory of the cave

 

[Cosmiverse]

Sadly, RP isn’t a thing anymore nowadays.

 

[Arata Winters]

interesting? i think it is pretty accurate. the last 5 grandmasters are on their second or 5th run. Have not done anything new.

as former COUNCIL
Master trial council recs
we created the great archives (COAT)
started the discord for orgs (macy)
RT bunks outside of the temple





also all former emeperors who each pkd either one of their own council (Kesul) or a colluded to eliminate high ranking org officers (Higgs)
Grandmasters since the Jedi's fall
Cause, Five, Scary, Cause, Shepard for 2 weeks, Cause, Alex, Archer for a day, Alex, Zozo for 2 months now. nothing new or interesting.

grand scholar
galen
liam
galen
scrim
galen
see a problem here?

high general
....

moto
Moto always seems to be the backstabber when in reality he should be the rock in the stream always present and managing people. pushing and pulling as needed to have the order follow the direction of the Grandmaster.


Council had a clear cut case of murder and video evidence. witnesses. proof that this same style of meanness pk happened time and time again.
yet they log off in the middle of us bringing it yo their attention only to get a message to respect the council member when they step down. that was a week ago. still has not stepped down.

there are currently no posted punishments and during a pivotal time in the server going to an old/legacy map. just Oat Man, Kasuo and Arata were on after the meeting. jcomms at 810 and everyone logged off after the shadows announcement. went from 40+ people to 22 inside of 10 minutes.


priviledge is the reason the server is having population problems. it is suppose to be a competitive game but that mechanic has yet to work in almost a year.

look how many will show up tommorow for the claim only to vanish again once defeated.

iroconian have been saying these things for 10 months

the allegory of the cave

You're right interesting isn't the best word for what I am trying to convey I found it more interesting on who he would think should be GM and should have stated it clearer, I think your observation on the same people keeping high ranks and no new ideas coming up is right and we definitely need to get some new people in those positions who can bring new ideas but the problem is us trying to find new players who are ready for JC because very few new people come along and get master. We can definitely work on setting up a standard for punishments because right now its just exiles and demotions and they are never really that enforced.

 

[IROCONIAN]

You're right interesting isn't the best word for what I am trying to convey I found it more interesting on who he would think should be GM and should have stated it clearer, I think your observation on the same people keeping high ranks and no new ideas coming up is right and we definitely need to get some new people in those positions who can bring new ideas but the problem is us trying to find new players who are ready for JC because very few new people come along and get master. We can definitely work on setting up a standard for punishments because right now its just exiles and demotions and they are never really that enforced.

Galen exiled a new RT we just got going because he shot him with errand shots and was unapologetic. he also sent RDE to murder him.

considering all they have done this past year. anybody can be Grandmaster, but if you want a good leader the priviledge has to go away.

to have control of the direction of an org, faction, server is a huge responsibility that nobody seems to get right. they just get arrogant and spiteful.

if you do not have a viable candidate for GM then you can blame the current GM for that.

i do not see alot of building in the server. only destruction and explaining away the mistakes.

Power attracts the worse and corrupts the best

 

[Pallox]

i swear it is easier to understand oat man than it is to understand Iroc

 

[Caitlyn]

Probably an unpopular opinon.

But personally, shadows seem to be a bad organization that shouldn't exist in my opinion.

It actually seems to enhance and put a light on Jedi hypocrisy and ultimately gives the Jedi an excuse to act like sith and be "shady."

Shadows give the council a way to spy, deceive and even murder people and call it justified or pretend like it didn't happen. The organization its-self is identified after darkness, vagueness and is the reverse of what the Jedi should be, transparent.

 

[Theseus]

Probably an unpopular opinon.

But personally, shadows seem to be a bad organization that shouldn't exist in my opinion.

It actually seems to enhance and put a light on Jedi hypocrisy and ultimately gives the Jedi an excuse to act like sith and be "shady."

Shadows give the council a way to spy, deceive and even murder people and call it justified or pretend like it didn't happen. The organization its-self is identified after darkness, vagueness and is the reverse of what the Jedi should be, transparent.

Shadows is not solely focused around "spying" nor "murder". Shadows were of course known for unorthodox way of dealing with things like that of course that why they are known as the most dangerous jedi. On the other side they stand for so much more than just than killing our sole purpose is to destroy anything dealing with the sith most people just ran Shadows as "blue sith" currently we are working on a way not to be seen as this. Shadows will be a small disciplined group of jedi who seek the destruction of Sith and their artifacts. Of course to say we wont be on the more "extremist" side would be foolish as that is what jedi shadows were practitioners of. Now under proper leadership though we will be focused on seeking out the artifacts of the sith and to destroy them to eliminate the possible future of the Sith. A purpose of a shadow is to stay in the shadows and gain Intel on the other hand though to so the council is aware of what's going on so it would be fullish to not allow shadows to do that saying that's what they did in lore. The information gathering wouldn't be used to punish people more or less to guide them upon the correct path and hopefully enlighten them. The people who previously ran the organization have ran it so people can call themselves jedi but really be sith under it's new leadership I hope you and the rest of the people who dont know our true nature will understand it was just mislead.

 

[Theseus]

Probably an unpopular opinon.

But personally, shadows seem to be a bad organization that shouldn't exist in my opinion.

It actually seems to enhance and put a light on Jedi hypocrisy and ultimately gives the Jedi an excuse to act like sith and be "shady."

Shadows give the council a way to spy, deceive and even murder people and call it justified or pretend like it didn't happen. The organization its-self is identified after darkness, vagueness and is the reverse of what the Jedi should be, transparent.

As well if you believe Jedi weren't scared of what their order did and act "shady" you are incredibly misinformed. The jedi in lore when shadows existed was extremely corrupt as sith were working from the inside so Shadows are used to gather intel for the council to stop the order and its reputation from being ruined. In general Jedi have always done this from the very beginning there is nothing shady about gathering information to use it help you. As the code says there is no ignorance there is knowledge you would figure the jedi have a way to keep the knowledge of what's going on behind their backs which is the purpose of gathering such intel. It is not to be shady its purposefully made so the people who have gotten intel gathered on do not know who gathered it and so it is done in a safe manner protecting them and the gatherer. The Shadows were known to excite fellow Jedi who have started on a path of corruption but this by orders of the council nothing the shadows could stop themselves. So if you believe the shadows are in the wrong look more into what causes that.

 

[Coat]

Elitism is the root of Reborn's decay. Instead of putting focus on a high-level org, we should be trying to bring new people to the server.
We need to foster a future, or we become stale and repetitive.