Form and Function: What form is this

What Saber form is this?

  • I Shii-Cho

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • II Makashi

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • III Soresu

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • IV Ataru

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • V Shien/Djem so

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • VI Niman

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • VII Juyo/Vaapad

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

IROCONIAN

Member
This is a saber performance artist i met at Otakon. They do demonstrations and are really good at puting on a show. I was deleting stuff from my phone and thought I would upload and share this with REBORN.






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Very well swung, she knew exactly what form to use and I know exactly what it is as well, but I don’t want to spoil it. Regardless, it surprised me how elegant she was when swinging, as if every swing had meaning and purpose behind it.
 
Very well swung, she knew exactly what form to use and I know exactly what it is as well, but I don’t want to spoil it. Regardless, it surprised me how elegant she was when swinging, as if every swing had meaning and purpose behind it.
Shut up and guess a form
 

Coat

Member
It’s quite obvious she is performing Makashi. The arm behind her back alone is a dead giveaway, as you commonly see that stance in modern fencing and Aggressive 1. Makashi is modelled after fencing and the Aggressive forms are heavily associated with Makashi, so this would seem like an open and shut case. However, it goes a bit deeper than that.

Let’s analyze her moves.
Her first move at 0:04-0:05 is a novice parry 11. This is likely just to warm up, but the high position of the maneuver gives her arm a lot of flexibility on where to go next.

Next at 0:06-0:12, she goes on a bit of a combo. Let’s break it down.
At 0:06-0:08, she meets a sweeping strike to her right, then retaliates with a simple thrust (With horrible footwork if I might add).

From 0:08-0:10, she converts her thrust into a sideways slash reminiscent of Aggressive 1’s “A” attack. Then quickly moves her blade above her head which could only be an attempt to parry a downward slash, as she has left her entire body exposed.

At 0:10-0:12, she performs an advanced sword technique where you strike at one side of your opponent’s blade to make them brace that side, then flip and strike the other. It’s a brutally effective technique and an appropriate way to end the combo.

0:14-0:16 is the same maneuver that ended the last combo, but this time, in an area that effectively covers the body.

Finally, from 0:18-0:20, she lowers her saber to her side and does something that threw me off: a kick. Normally, you don’t see fencers and Makashi users kicking. Then I remembered Count Dooku’s kick against Anakin in EpIII, and all was well in the world.
Now, she may have disoriented her opponent in kicking, but she also presented her leg as a target. So, after the kick returns, she swings her blade in front of it to match any strikes.
And of course, she ends the demonstration with her favourite combo ender (This time at head height).

That marks the end of the video, so what are our thoughts?
Well, most of her moves were parry-ripostes, block and counter. As well, her attacks were light and precise; necessary when fighting with only one hand.
All signs point to Makashi, there is no other form I could see this woman using.
Shii-Cho: Her style is refined, opposite to Shii-Cho’s rawness. As well, her moves left her open to multiple opponents, which Shii-Cho excels at fighting.

Makashi: They are both precise, dueling focused, have one arm behind their back, and oh my god it’s a perfect fit.

Soresu: While her moves are very defensive is nature, the ripostes and focus just don’t mesh with Soresu’s “wait them out” mentality.

Ataru: No spins, no acrobatics, and minimal aggression mean Ataru is out.

Shien: Now this is one I didn’t consider at first. The ripostes and parries match with Shien’s enhanced critical strikes and excerpts from Soresu. However, Shien was always meant for facing blaster bolts, and she leaves herself wide open to those more often than not.

D’jem so: Meant for heavy, overpowering strikes; the furthest descriptor from her attacks.

Niman: Niman is a culmination of every other form. Does her style have aspects from every form? No, she has nothing in Ataru or D’jem so, and little from Shii-Cho.

Lastly, Juyo/Vaapad: Juyo and Vaapad are exclusively aggressive, and she is usually defending. It can’t be these.

What is my final verdict?

Makashi is the meat of her technique, but she is using Shien-inspired moves for most of her combat.
My advise to her is to take that arm from her back and make the switch.

But yes, she is a Makashi practitioner.
 
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It’s quite obvious she is performing Makashi. The arm behind her back alone is a dead giveaway, as you commonly see that stance in modern fencing and Aggressive 1. Makashi is modelled after fencing and the Aggressive forms are heavily associated with Makashi, so this would seem like an open and shut case. However, it goes a bit deeper than that.

Let’s analyze her moves.
Her first move at 0:04-0:05 is a novice parry 11. This is likely just to warm up, but the high position of the maneuver gives her arm a lot of flexibility on where to go next.

Next at 0:06-0:12, she goes on a bit of a combo. Let’s break it down.
At 0:06-0:08, she meets a sweeping strike to her right, then retaliates with a simple thrust (With horrible footwork if I might add).

From 0:08-0:10, she converts her thrust into a sideways slash reminiscent of Aggressive 1’s “A” attack. Then quickly moves her blade above her head which could only be an attempt to parry a downward slash, as she has left her entire body exposed.

At 0:10-0:12, she performs an advanced sword technique where you strike at one side of your opponent’s blade to make them brace that side, then flip and strike the other. It’s a brutally effective technique and an appropriate way to end the combo.

0:14-0:16 is the same maneuver that ended the last combo, but this time, in an area that effectively covers the body.

Finally, from 0:18-0:20, she lowers her saber to her side and does something that threw me off: a kick. Normally, you don’t see fencers and Makashi users kicking. Then I remembered Count Dooku’s kick against Anakin in EpIII, and all was well in the world.
Now, she may have disoriented her opponent in kicking, but she also presented her leg as a target. So, after the kick returns, she swings her blade in front of it to match any strikes.
And of course, she ends the demonstration with her favourite combo ender (This time at head height).

That marks the end of the video, so what are our thoughts?
Well, most of her moves were parry-ripostes, block and counter. As well, her attacks were light and precise; necessary when fighting with only one hand.
All signs point to Makashi, there is no other form I could see this woman using.
Shii-Cho: Her style is refined, opposite to Shii-Cho’s rawness. As well, her moves left her open to multiple opponents, which Shii-Cho excels at fighting.

Makashi: They are both precise, dueling focused, have one arm behind their back, and oh my god it’s a perfect fit.

Soresu: While her moves are very defensive is nature, the ripostes and focus just don’t mesh with Soresu’s “wait them out” mentality.

Ataru: No spins, no acrobatics, and minimal aggression mean Ataru is out.

Shien: Now this is one I didn’t consider at first. The ripostes and parries match with Shien’s enhanced critical strikes and excerpts from Soresu. However, Shien was always meant for facing blaster bolts, and she leaves herself wide open to those more often than not.

D’jem so: Meant for heavy, overpowering strikes; the furthest descriptor from her attacks.

Niman: Niman is a culmination of every other form. Does her style have aspects from every form? No, she has nothing in Ataru or D’jem so, and little from Shii-Cho.

Lastly, Juyo/Vaapad: Juyo and Vaapad are exclusively aggressive, and she is usually defending. It can’t be these.

What is my final verdict?

Makashi is the meat of her technique, but she is using Shien-inspired moves for most of her combat.
My advise to her is to take that arm from her back and make the switch.

But yes, she is a Makashi practitioner.
you did not just write that out
 
It’s quite obvious she is performing Makashi. The arm behind her back alone is a dead giveaway, as you commonly see that stance in modern fencing and Aggressive 1. Makashi is modelled after fencing and the Aggressive forms are heavily associated with Makashi, so this would seem like an open and shut case. However, it goes a bit deeper than that.

Let’s analyze her moves.
Her first move at 0:04-0:05 is a novice parry 11. This is likely just to warm up, but the high position of the maneuver gives her arm a lot of flexibility on where to go next.

Next at 0:06-0:12, she goes on a bit of a combo. Let’s break it down.
At 0:06-0:08, she meets a sweeping strike to her right, then retaliates with a simple thrust (With horrible footwork if I might add).

From 0:08-0:10, she converts her thrust into a sideways slash reminiscent of Aggressive 1’s “A” attack. Then quickly moves her blade above her head which could only be an attempt to parry a downward slash, as she has left her entire body exposed.

At 0:10-0:12, she performs an advanced sword technique where you strike at one side of your opponent’s blade to make them brace that side, then flip and strike the other. It’s a brutally effective technique and an appropriate way to end the combo.

0:14-0:16 is the same maneuver that ended the last combo, but this time, in an area that effectively covers the body.

Finally, from 0:18-0:20, she lowers her saber to her side and does something that threw me off: a kick. Normally, you don’t see fencers and Makashi users kicking. Then I remembered Count Dooku’s kick against Anakin in EpIII, and all was well in the world.
Now, she may have disoriented her opponent in kicking, but she also presented her leg as a target. So, after the kick returns, she swings her blade in front of it to match any strikes.
And of course, she ends the demonstration with her favourite combo ender (This time at head height).

That marks the end of the video, so what are our thoughts?
Well, most of her moves were parry-ripostes, block and counter. As well, her attacks were light and precise; necessary when fighting with only one hand.
All signs point to Makashi, there is no other form I could see this woman using.
Shii-Cho: Her style is refined, opposite to Shii-Cho’s rawness. As well, her moves left her open to multiple opponents, which Shii-Cho excels at fighting.

Makashi: They are both precise, dueling focused, have one arm behind their back, and oh my god it’s a perfect fit.

Soresu: While her moves are very defensive is nature, the ripostes and focus just don’t mesh with Soresu’s “wait them out” mentality.

Ataru: No spins, no acrobatics, and minimal aggression mean Ataru is out.

Shien: Now this is one I didn’t consider at first. The ripostes and parries match with Shien’s enhanced critical strikes and excerpts from Soresu. However, Shien was always meant for facing blaster bolts, and she leaves herself wide open to those more often than not.

D’jem so: Meant for heavy, overpowering strikes; the furthest descriptor from her attacks.

Niman: Niman is a culmination of every other form. Does her style have aspects from every form? No, she has nothing in Ataru or D’jem so, and little from Shii-Cho.

Lastly, Juyo/Vaapad: Juyo and Vaapad are exclusively aggressive, and she is usually defending. It can’t be these.

What is my final verdict?

Makashi is the meat of her technique, but she is using Shien-inspired moves for most of her combat.
My advise to her is to take that arm from her back and make the switch.

But yes, she is a Makashi practitioner.
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IROCONIAN

Member
It’s quite obvious she is performing Makashi. The arm behind her back alone is a dead giveaway, as you commonly see that stance in modern fencing and Aggressive 1. Makashi is modelled after fencing and the Aggressive forms are heavily associated with Makashi, so this would seem like an open and shut case. However, it goes a bit deeper than that.

Let’s analyze her moves.
Her first move at 0:04-0:05 is a novice parry 11. This is likely just to warm up, but the high position of the maneuver gives her arm a lot of flexibility on where to go next.

Next at 0:06-0:12, she goes on a bit of a combo. Let’s break it down.
At 0:06-0:08, she meets a sweeping strike to her right, then retaliates with a simple thrust (With horrible footwork if I might add).

From 0:08-0:10, she converts her thrust into a sideways slash reminiscent of Aggressive 1’s “A” attack. Then quickly moves her blade above her head which could only be an attempt to parry a downward slash, as she has left her entire body exposed.

At 0:10-0:12, she performs an advanced sword technique where you strike at one side of your opponent’s blade to make them brace that side, then flip and strike the other. It’s a brutally effective technique and an appropriate way to end the combo.

0:14-0:16 is the same maneuver that ended the last combo, but this time, in an area that effectively covers the body.

Finally, from 0:18-0:20, she lowers her saber to her side and does something that threw me off: a kick. Normally, you don’t see fencers and Makashi users kicking. Then I remembered Count Dooku’s kick against Anakin in EpIII, and all was well in the world.
Now, she may have disoriented her opponent in kicking, but she also presented her leg as a target. So, after the kick returns, she swings her blade in front of it to match any strikes.
And of course, she ends the demonstration with her favourite combo ender (This time at head height).

That marks the end of the video, so what are our thoughts?
Well, most of her moves were parry-ripostes, block and counter. As well, her attacks were light and precise; necessary when fighting with only one hand.
All signs point to Makashi, there is no other form I could see this woman using.
Shii-Cho: Her style is refined, opposite to Shii-Cho’s rawness. As well, her moves left her open to multiple opponents, which Shii-Cho excels at fighting.

Makashi: They are both precise, dueling focused, have one arm behind their back, and oh my god it’s a perfect fit.

Soresu: While her moves are very defensive is nature, the ripostes and focus just don’t mesh with Soresu’s “wait them out” mentality.

Ataru: No spins, no acrobatics, and minimal aggression mean Ataru is out.

Shien: Now this is one I didn’t consider at first. The ripostes and parries match with Shien’s enhanced critical strikes and excerpts from Soresu. However, Shien was always meant for facing blaster bolts, and she leaves herself wide open to those more often than not.

D’jem so: Meant for heavy, overpowering strikes; the furthest descriptor from her attacks.

Niman: Niman is a culmination of every other form. Does her style have aspects from every form? No, she has nothing in Ataru or D’jem so, and little from Shii-Cho.

Lastly, Juyo/Vaapad: Juyo and Vaapad are exclusively aggressive, and she is usually defending. It can’t be these.

What is my final verdict?

Makashi is the meat of her technique, but she is using Shien-inspired moves for most of her combat.
My advise to her is to take that arm from her back and make the switch.

But yes, she is a Makashi practitioner.
epic bro, thanks for taking the time to analyzing this
 
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